I am quoting from my reply to you in my blog today:
“…you made my day with Satriani! He is kind of god! I know when he hears “the god” description for himself, he does not accept this; he is so humble! But I always say that people should not look for the gods at sky, some musicians and some writers are really fit to the god’s describing. And Satriani,- what a cool name by the way:)- with his perfect technique, and with the spirit in his music he makes us listen to him without making the technique feel in his music! I think he borned with guitar, but doctors have cut the guitar part on his when he borned, but he found it later and completed himself. 🙂”
And do you shake your head when you hear the electronic guitar sound like Satriani plays? I always shake my head, my earthling friend. When the rhythm is more speed in some metal genres I find myself suddenly by making headbang. And when it is more slow I just shake, but always shake unconsciously. I just wonder it is happening to you.:)
Also, of course my favorite song of Satriani is. 😉
Of course it does, especially if I am very focused on the experience. But it doesn’t have to be fast; it can also be slow, well, like “Made of Tears.”
And of course, there isn’t only one style of music or genre or instrument that is to my taste, although modern rock garners a great deal of my attention.
Just as an example of the appeal of differences in style, one piece interpreted in two different compositions but that in their differences nevertheless resonate, on account of the lyrics, with the same emotional tenor and appeal is “Hurt,” originally by Nine Inch Nails, but beautifully done by Johnny Cash. As I said, I can’t put my finger on “it.” It’s a combination of hypnotic effect from the layering of complimentary rhythms and musical phrases and simply being amazed that such arrangements are ‘deliberate’ once worked out and performable at will, let alone being the collaborative product of more than one individual, each playing off of everyone else.
In case you missed it:
And then in this rendition:
Both of these performances ‘hit it’ exactly right for me . . .
So I am not the only one! I shake my head right now.:)
And, I had knew Nine Inch Nails from the Quake pc- game theme,:) but I did not hear the “hurt” performance of theirs(and any song of them I did not hear). To be honest, I do like more Johnny Cash “hurt” performance. I think Cash’s voice gives very sad feeling, and it makes his perfect fit with the song. (Actually I did not hear any song of Cash except “hurt”.) Some people’s voice give some effects. Example Freddie Mercury voice is always giving to me feel of “freedom” and I want to run and run:).
like in this:
Perhaps because of the pitch of Mercury voice is too wide, I do not know maybe 🙂
And some times without any human voice like Satriani quitar performence I can not hold my self and shake my head. Or I can sleep while listening another instrumental song like this one:
I clocked and my eyes always starting to close about 2:40 minutes of this song, 🙂 this song gives me always the feel of “peace”.
Also, yet if you did not watch the movie “Everything is Illuminated” which this song is in it, I highly recomend you to watch, my earthling friend.:)
Freddy had an amazing voice, and it’s absolutely no discredit to him that he was well aware of the fact. (I had to laugh when he told his audience to ‘fuck off,’ so well did they follow his lead.)
And yes, the second piece that you link to is absolutely beautiful. I listened to it for the first time yesterday and several times since, and again I have it playing as I type this. It’s both sad and happy at the same time, or so it seems to me. And the execution of the acoustic (classical) guitar is perfect!
I agree with you and I bet on that a voice like Freddie Mercury will never come on this planet again!
And I am happy you like “prologue babushka” song. Babushka, бабушка, by the way, means grandmother.:)
You are saying, “It’s both sad and happy at the same time,”. I thought on it. I had said you know that gives me “peace” feeling to me. And you were right, it maked me feel both sad and happy in the same time too, when listen it again. Maybe, being peaceful means that being happy and sad in same moment; maybe to experience two opposite sensations at the same time. When think about it, to start to laugh after very moment you are angry, makes you feel at ease. Maybe this is to be peaceful. 🙂
The acoustic guitar in the song gives this well. Again from the same movie, another acoustic guitar song:
These songs are very similar to eastern europe, especially the music of the Balkans. But little bit slow compared with Balkans’ music rhythms. These melodies are little closer to the east. As we go to the east, the melodies become more emotional. The story of the movie, “Everything is illuminated” of this soundtrack is in Ukraine, so these musics are very suitable for film.
Also, I have remembered that the movie, “Everything is illuminated,” gave me sadness and joy in the same time, when I watched. For have an opinion about movie:
I guess, you have an opinion about what I meant my earthling friend.:) By the way, Liev Schreiber, the director of the movie is 4th in my top list of movie directors. At the top of my list there is Tim Burton. 😉
sojournersaid:
“From pure sensation to the intuition of beauty, from pleasure and pain to love and the mystical ecstasy and death — all the things that are fundamental, all the things that, to the human spirit, are most profoundly significant, can only be experienced, not expressed. The rest is always and everywhere silence.
After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.”
Aldous Huxley
Music keeps the individual, in this herd mentality world, alive, because we each, individually, experience music in our own unique way, This is not to say that groups of individuals can’t appreciate the same music, but they will all experience that particular music in their own unique way, their own unique interpretation. Like strings on a piano, when struck, cause a ‘sympathetic vibration’ among other strings not struck, so music touches us in our own unique sympathetic vibration ways.
I hear this in your words above, Norm. I am eclectic, as well, when it comes to music and all the arts. I love certain Mozart pieces, as well as later classical and modern music. But I also love certain country and rock tunes. Hell, I made my living playing in funk, blues and Jazz bands, while studying classical theory and composition.
I have always wished we could hear how the music sounds to each of us: in other words, how a piece of music sounds to you, by me being able to plug into your auditory system and mind.
I think if you got inside my head, you would hear the sounds that you yourself hear, Sojourner, but what would be different would be the emotional, imagistic, and reminiscent resonances: after all, we have not lived the same lives, have not been affected and shaped by the same personal history, nor is it probable that we share an identical cognitive style. And then, of course, because of my complete lack of formal musical training, much that you are attuned to, technically speaking and in terms of nuances in execution, would be absent. But other than that, the experience would be the same, no? 😉
I agree. This, in fact, was what I was trying to say here. The sympathetic vibration I spoke of, was not meant to mean musical tones alone, I meant a sympathetic vibration of the mind and heart, as well. Thus the quote by Huxley above.
Yes, absolutely, Norm, we would hear the same sound, the same music, but as you point out here, it would be filtered through our own experiences, thoughts and how the music moves us, emotionally and in other ways.
And on your last point, sometimes, my musical training can get in the way of my experiences, when it comes to listening to and enjoying music. Sometimes, it’s hard to turn off the analysis part, and just enjoy the music for its own sake. In fact, I have become, for lack of a better word, jaded, in this sense; I no longer enjoy music the way I once did, before the musicologists got a hold of me.
I am quoting from my reply to you in my blog today:
“…you made my day with Satriani! He is kind of god! I know when he hears “the god” description for himself, he does not accept this; he is so humble! But I always say that people should not look for the gods at sky, some musicians and some writers are really fit to the god’s describing. And Satriani,- what a cool name by the way:)- with his perfect technique, and with the spirit in his music he makes us listen to him without making the technique feel in his music! I think he borned with guitar, but doctors have cut the guitar part on his when he borned, but he found it later and completed himself. 🙂”
And do you shake your head when you hear the electronic guitar sound like Satriani plays? I always shake my head, my earthling friend. When the rhythm is more speed in some metal genres I find myself suddenly by making headbang. And when it is more slow I just shake, but always shake unconsciously. I just wonder it is happening to you.:)
Also, of course my favorite song of Satriani is. 😉
“I just wonder it is happening to you.”
Of course it does, especially if I am very focused on the experience. But it doesn’t have to be fast; it can also be slow, well, like “Made of Tears.”
And of course, there isn’t only one style of music or genre or instrument that is to my taste, although modern rock garners a great deal of my attention.
Just as an example of the appeal of differences in style, one piece interpreted in two different compositions but that in their differences nevertheless resonate, on account of the lyrics, with the same emotional tenor and appeal is “Hurt,” originally by Nine Inch Nails, but beautifully done by Johnny Cash. As I said, I can’t put my finger on “it.” It’s a combination of hypnotic effect from the layering of complimentary rhythms and musical phrases and simply being amazed that such arrangements are ‘deliberate’ once worked out and performable at will, let alone being the collaborative product of more than one individual, each playing off of everyone else.
In case you missed it:
And then in this rendition:
Both of these performances ‘hit it’ exactly right for me . . .
So I am not the only one! I shake my head right now.:)
And, I had knew Nine Inch Nails from the Quake pc- game theme,:) but I did not hear the “hurt” performance of theirs(and any song of them I did not hear). To be honest, I do like more Johnny Cash “hurt” performance. I think Cash’s voice gives very sad feeling, and it makes his perfect fit with the song. (Actually I did not hear any song of Cash except “hurt”.) Some people’s voice give some effects. Example Freddie Mercury voice is always giving to me feel of “freedom” and I want to run and run:).
like in this:
Perhaps because of the pitch of Mercury voice is too wide, I do not know maybe 🙂
And some times without any human voice like Satriani quitar performence I can not hold my self and shake my head. Or I can sleep while listening another instrumental song like this one:
I clocked and my eyes always starting to close about 2:40 minutes of this song, 🙂 this song gives me always the feel of “peace”.
Also, yet if you did not watch the movie “Everything is Illuminated” which this song is in it, I highly recomend you to watch, my earthling friend.:)
Freddy had an amazing voice, and it’s absolutely no discredit to him that he was well aware of the fact. (I had to laugh when he told his audience to ‘fuck off,’ so well did they follow his lead.)
And yes, the second piece that you link to is absolutely beautiful. I listened to it for the first time yesterday and several times since, and again I have it playing as I type this. It’s both sad and happy at the same time, or so it seems to me. And the execution of the acoustic (classical) guitar is perfect!
I agree with you and I bet on that a voice like Freddie Mercury will never come on this planet again!
And I am happy you like “prologue babushka” song. Babushka, бабушка, by the way, means grandmother.:)
You are saying, “It’s both sad and happy at the same time,”. I thought on it. I had said you know that gives me “peace” feeling to me. And you were right, it maked me feel both sad and happy in the same time too, when listen it again. Maybe, being peaceful means that being happy and sad in same moment; maybe to experience two opposite sensations at the same time. When think about it, to start to laugh after very moment you are angry, makes you feel at ease. Maybe this is to be peaceful. 🙂
The acoustic guitar in the song gives this well. Again from the same movie, another acoustic guitar song:
These songs are very similar to eastern europe, especially the music of the Balkans. But little bit slow compared with Balkans’ music rhythms. These melodies are little closer to the east. As we go to the east, the melodies become more emotional. The story of the movie, “Everything is illuminated” of this soundtrack is in Ukraine, so these musics are very suitable for film.
Also, I have remembered that the movie, “Everything is illuminated,” gave me sadness and joy in the same time, when I watched. For have an opinion about movie:
I guess, you have an opinion about what I meant my earthling friend.:) By the way, Liev Schreiber, the director of the movie is 4th in my top list of movie directors. At the top of my list there is Tim Burton. 😉
“From pure sensation to the intuition of beauty, from pleasure and pain to love and the mystical ecstasy and death — all the things that are fundamental, all the things that, to the human spirit, are most profoundly significant, can only be experienced, not expressed. The rest is always and everywhere silence.
After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.”
Aldous Huxley
Music keeps the individual, in this herd mentality world, alive, because we each, individually, experience music in our own unique way, This is not to say that groups of individuals can’t appreciate the same music, but they will all experience that particular music in their own unique way, their own unique interpretation. Like strings on a piano, when struck, cause a ‘sympathetic vibration’ among other strings not struck, so music touches us in our own unique sympathetic vibration ways.
I hear this in your words above, Norm. I am eclectic, as well, when it comes to music and all the arts. I love certain Mozart pieces, as well as later classical and modern music. But I also love certain country and rock tunes. Hell, I made my living playing in funk, blues and Jazz bands, while studying classical theory and composition.
I have always wished we could hear how the music sounds to each of us: in other words, how a piece of music sounds to you, by me being able to plug into your auditory system and mind.
Interesting conversation.
I think if you got inside my head, you would hear the sounds that you yourself hear, Sojourner, but what would be different would be the emotional, imagistic, and reminiscent resonances: after all, we have not lived the same lives, have not been affected and shaped by the same personal history, nor is it probable that we share an identical cognitive style. And then, of course, because of my complete lack of formal musical training, much that you are attuned to, technically speaking and in terms of nuances in execution, would be absent. But other than that, the experience would be the same, no? 😉
I agree. This, in fact, was what I was trying to say here. The sympathetic vibration I spoke of, was not meant to mean musical tones alone, I meant a sympathetic vibration of the mind and heart, as well. Thus the quote by Huxley above.
Yes, absolutely, Norm, we would hear the same sound, the same music, but as you point out here, it would be filtered through our own experiences, thoughts and how the music moves us, emotionally and in other ways.
And on your last point, sometimes, my musical training can get in the way of my experiences, when it comes to listening to and enjoying music. Sometimes, it’s hard to turn off the analysis part, and just enjoy the music for its own sake. In fact, I have become, for lack of a better word, jaded, in this sense; I no longer enjoy music the way I once did, before the musicologists got a hold of me.
Or maybe it’s just old age?;-)